Andreas and I don't have major disagreements on the chlorine dioxide. We share the same views on cancer and similar topics, and this case report reflects my shifting perspective on oral chlorine dioxide. With complex issues, it's natural for us to have slight differences. You can't expect us to hold identical views—that would make us the same person, leaving the world with one less person exploring new uses for chlorine dioxide.
I do not expect you and Andreas to hold identical views.
The purpose of my comment was to get you and Andreas on the public platform to discuss for us less than experts on CD scientifically your views that in light of the quote of yours I gave you places you at odds (seemingly) with Andreas.
I hope you and Andreas will take me up on my offer.
You can begin by writing an article explaining your
"I've always been skeptical about MMS or CDS, especially ingesting chlorine dioxide, as I believe using it to treat diseases defies scientific logic."
I do not have experience with oral MMS, so on this point, I have no recommendations. For use on the skin, I have provided specific preparation and application methods in my posts; there are definitive methods for each specific disease. Please remember that chlorine dioxide is not a cure-all. For specific diseases, specific methods should be employed. If it is a method I proposed, I will provide the exact concentration. However, many methods were not proposed by me, such as measuring by drops and then taking orally.
If this is about the post, the concentration for treating stomach spasms is significantly higher than the concentration typically used for oral MMS.
Yes, Bobbi, my complaint too. There is no, unfortunately, single most authoritative source which clearly states what a "standard dose" is. I consider it to be 3 drops of 22-28% Sodium Chlorite and 3 drops of 4% Hydrochloric Acid. Go to the Curious Outlier for best information: https://curioushumanproductions.substack.com
Chlorine dioxide is not a cure-all; the appropriate method and concentration should be based on specific diseases. If it is a method I proposed, I will provide you with the exact concentration. As for other methods, I have no experience with them.
I don't think I've misunderstood your information; rather, you misunderstood the logic of my case report. While I've consistently questioned MMS and CDS, oral chlorine dioxide, I do not oppose it. My case report a shift in my attitude because it provides valuable insights into treating stomach spasms with oral CDS. Science progresses through questioning, and Andreas agrees with this. I've exchanged ideas with Andreas times, sharing theories and experiences without contradiction, common ground. We are key figures in chlorine dioxide therapy.
I am not talking about your case report. I am addressing this comment of yours:
"I've always been skeptical about MMS or CDS, especially ingesting chlorine dioxide, as I believe using it to treat diseases defies scientific logic."
It seems obvious to me that Andreas does NOT think CDS "defies scientific logic" as you state you DO. So there is to me a BIG difference here I would like you to address. Write an article for laymen WHY you think CDS "defies scientific logic" and that would help those like me who have used CDS with excellent results for years to consider your claim.
Hi, Jack. I suggest understanding "I've always been skeptical about MMS or CDS, especially ingesting chlorine dioxide, as I believe using it to treat diseases defies scientific logic." as "I've always been skeptical about MMS or CDS, especially ingesting chlorine dioxide, as I believe using it to treat diseases defies my scientific logic." Does this address the disagreement you have?
Everyone has their own set of scientific logic they believe in, allowing both Andreas and me to have different views. Moreover, my scientific logic isn't necessarily correct.
Chlorine dioxide is not a cure-all; the appropriate method and concentration should be based on specific diseases. If it is a method I proposed, I will provide you with the exact concentration. As for other methods, I have no experience with them.
Always pleased with your posts even if I disagree with your claims sometimes.
As you know I met you and Andreas Kalcker together.
I hope you would be willing to have a discussion/debate with Andreas about your claim that CDS does not fit the "scientific" evidence:
"I've always been skeptical about MMS or CDS, especially ingesting chlorine dioxide, as I believe using it to treat diseases defies scientific logic."
I think it will be enlightening for we oral CDS users to hear your evidence compared to Andreas.
I will be pleased to help set this dialogue up and moderate it if required.
By the way, have you stayed in contact with Andreas after our meeting and if so have you two discussed your differences regarding CDS?
With interest and care, Jack
Hi Jack,
Andreas and I don't have major disagreements on the chlorine dioxide. We share the same views on cancer and similar topics, and this case report reflects my shifting perspective on oral chlorine dioxide. With complex issues, it's natural for us to have slight differences. You can't expect us to hold identical views—that would make us the same person, leaving the world with one less person exploring new uses for chlorine dioxide.
You mis-interpreted my message to you.
I do not expect you and Andreas to hold identical views.
The purpose of my comment was to get you and Andreas on the public platform to discuss for us less than experts on CD scientifically your views that in light of the quote of yours I gave you places you at odds (seemingly) with Andreas.
I hope you and Andreas will take me up on my offer.
You can begin by writing an article explaining your
"I've always been skeptical about MMS or CDS, especially ingesting chlorine dioxide, as I believe using it to treat diseases defies scientific logic."
Get free, stay free.
We “Little People” (non-scientifically educated) are looking to help ourselves with various ailments. MMS is so easy…. CDS is rather easy also….
But we are confused by which means of making it and how to correctly measure or use.
Unifying & clarifying is the kind way of helping humanity!
I do not have experience with oral MMS, so on this point, I have no recommendations. For use on the skin, I have provided specific preparation and application methods in my posts; there are definitive methods for each specific disease. Please remember that chlorine dioxide is not a cure-all. For specific diseases, specific methods should be employed. If it is a method I proposed, I will provide the exact concentration. However, many methods were not proposed by me, such as measuring by drops and then taking orally.
If this is about the post, the concentration for treating stomach spasms is significantly higher than the concentration typically used for oral MMS.
Yes, Bobbi, my complaint too. There is no, unfortunately, single most authoritative source which clearly states what a "standard dose" is. I consider it to be 3 drops of 22-28% Sodium Chlorite and 3 drops of 4% Hydrochloric Acid. Go to the Curious Outlier for best information: https://curioushumanproductions.substack.com
Chlorine dioxide is not a cure-all; the appropriate method and concentration should be based on specific diseases. If it is a method I proposed, I will provide you with the exact concentration. As for other methods, I have no experience with them.
I don't think I've misunderstood your information; rather, you misunderstood the logic of my case report. While I've consistently questioned MMS and CDS, oral chlorine dioxide, I do not oppose it. My case report a shift in my attitude because it provides valuable insights into treating stomach spasms with oral CDS. Science progresses through questioning, and Andreas agrees with this. I've exchanged ideas with Andreas times, sharing theories and experiences without contradiction, common ground. We are key figures in chlorine dioxide therapy.
I am not talking about your case report. I am addressing this comment of yours:
"I've always been skeptical about MMS or CDS, especially ingesting chlorine dioxide, as I believe using it to treat diseases defies scientific logic."
It seems obvious to me that Andreas does NOT think CDS "defies scientific logic" as you state you DO. So there is to me a BIG difference here I would like you to address. Write an article for laymen WHY you think CDS "defies scientific logic" and that would help those like me who have used CDS with excellent results for years to consider your claim.
Hi, Jack. I suggest understanding "I've always been skeptical about MMS or CDS, especially ingesting chlorine dioxide, as I believe using it to treat diseases defies scientific logic." as "I've always been skeptical about MMS or CDS, especially ingesting chlorine dioxide, as I believe using it to treat diseases defies my scientific logic." Does this address the disagreement you have?
Everyone has their own set of scientific logic they believe in, allowing both Andreas and me to have different views. Moreover, my scientific logic isn't necessarily correct.
Chlorine dioxide is not a cure-all; the appropriate method and concentration should be based on specific diseases. If it is a method I proposed, I will provide you with the exact concentration. As for other methods, I have no experience with them.